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Kirby vs. Bowser

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Shiri

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:yoshi: Doesn't Bowser CC the snot out of Kirby in this matchup?

Of course Kirby needs twice the damage to KO here (or a good meteor), but by the same token, it's almost as if Kirby has to straight up run into a KO move from Bowser (forward tilt, forward air) to get knocked out. I'm actually pretty sure Kirby's Up+B from the ground outranges Bowser nasty in everything except his down tilt, and even then, I do believe they tie unless the Bowser does the tilt early (super early).

I've always held that this match isn't very lopsided, but it's certainly not even, either. A very patient Kirby should be able to poke, jab, run, suck, and camp his way to victory here.
 

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Even if Final Cutter could outrange Bowser, I'm not sure even Bowser wouldn't be able to punish such a laggy attack. >_>
 
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why should they fight each other when they can team up? when kirby spits out bowser as a star it does 19% and at about 50% it combo into upair and KOs.

lol.
 

Wilhelmsan

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It's a lot like the Sheik vs IC matchup.

You'll get crushed if you stick to your normal gameplan, so you just have to be gay and not stop.

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Also just in: Today I survived from a swallowcide on FoD for the first time <('-'<)
 

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All my spare 0C3 monies is going toward MMs, so make sure find me! ^__^
 

t!MmY

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Gimpyfish, you left 0C3 too early and we didn't get to do the Kirby vs Bowser crew battle. T_T
I did however get to play against Gojira, and we had some great matches. But... Kirby FTW! Gimpy, play me at the next tournament we happen to be at so we can finally get some videos online.
 

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I personally see Bowser having a slight advantage here. It's all about adjusting to Kirby's attack patterns. Jigglypuff's Wall of Pain is vastly superior to Kirby's Wall of Moderate Discomfort in most ways. Kirby needs to take advantage of tilt poking and landing grabs.

If Kirby gets knocked off the level, he's going to have a -hard- time getting back. Bowser too, but not as bad, usually.

Bowser F-Air should eventually bypass things. Bowser can KO with F-Tilt, U-Tilt, Fortress, F-Air, U-Air, B-Air, and any smash; the former few being quite easy to land. Kirby has D-Tilt meteors and U-Airs, from what I can tell; eventually B-Airs, but DI tends to prevent it until very high percent.

It just depends on how long it takes for Bowser to adjust to the Wall of Moderate Discomfort. Once you get used to it, it becomes fairly favorable for Bowser.
 

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I MM a kirby for a few dollars and won. I also played T!mmy. He did do some nasty things vs bowser with back airs and up tilts, but Bowser is just able to kill kirby with fortresses and fairs at such low %. Kirby may be able to combo bowser pretty well, but in both my MM and matches vs T!MMY i Learned that kirby struggles vs bowser alot because of fairs and fortresses...I almost feel bad for the little guy.......


SO just to let peeps know Bowser has the advantage.....plain and simple.
 

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One thing I learned down at 0C3... Kirbys' combos on Bowser are too much fun. :D
 

jwkirby64

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stick like a metroid, flee like a WaddleDee?
after you sap that turtle's brain for his counters and combos.

edit: sry, i didn't come back to this post, and writing from the wii usually doesn't help as well. But i was asking about what strategy i should use. T!mmy already answered in another thread.
 

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OK, so this thread needs to be revived, so I'll start with this (my own data). Wasn't sure if brawl matches were admissable evidence or not, so I steered clear of them where distinguishable.

Kirby: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCSNKk0LBeE
Kirby: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvYpZbIvZUQ – this is a video for those who don’t think Kirby can outright KO Boozer
Kirby: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofn4GELhheo
Kirby: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81TZJYhE_rs&feature=related
Kirby: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8bmbUzMJUc&feature=related
Kirby: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DnjIvZbJJo&feature=related – Ok, so this may be a match against a CPU char, but like he said on the vid, Kirby had a 1-second controller delay, so I count that as even
Kirby: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agl5jsBpmRg&feature=related – This is a one-stock match that Kirby wins by KO, proving that Kirby can KO Bowser first

Alright, so that puts my score at Kirby 7, Bowser 0? Kirby FTW. ^_^
 

Gimpyfish62

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kirby is really beyond terrible - easily the worst character in the game.

he beats bowser if bowser goes wandering like a dum dum to the edge all match long but that's the only reason it should happen
 

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kirby is really beyond terrible - easily the worst character in the game.

he beats bowser if bowser goes wandering like a dum dum to the edge all match long but that's the only reason it should happen
I agree--so much, in fact, that I believe there should be a Kirby tier.
 
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