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The ideal patch: R.O.B

TheLobsterCopter5000

Smash Apprentice
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Dec 24, 2016
Messages
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R.O.B is generally considered a mid-tier, and its representation is not that great. As with other mid-tiers in this project, I plan on making R.O.B a lower-top tier with these patch notes.

Air speed: 1.08 -> 1.11
Jumpsquat: 5 -> 4
Dash attack damage: 7 -> 8
Dash attack FAF: 36 -> 32
Dtilt FAF: 15 -> 13
Dtilt trip chance: 20 -> 30
Dtilt shield damage: 0 -> 4
Fsmash damage: 15/11.5/6 -> 15/12/7
Fsmash angle: 41 -> 38
Usmash damage: 14/13 -> 14.5
Usmash KBG: 98 -> 99
Dsmash (loop) damage: 2/1.5 -> 2.5
Dsmash (loop) hit rate: 3 -> 4
Grab range: +0.2 (all variants)
Fthrow weight-dependant Frame-Speed Multiplier: yes -> no
Fthrow Frame Speed Multiplier: 1 -> 0.95 (roughly 5.2% faster)
Fthrow BKB: 60 -> 40
Fthrow KBG: 65 -> 60
Uthrow KBG: 70 -> 75
Dthrow KBG: 20 -> 18
Nair startup: 17 -> 14
Nair ending lag: 16 -> 14
Fair startup: 6 -> 3
Fair ending lag: 29 -> 26
Fair hitbox size: 6.0/4.5 -> 6.3/4.8
Fair landing lag: 15 -> 13
Fair autocancel: 25 -> 22
Bair (clean) damage: 10/12 -> 14
Uair (finisher) angle: 70 -> 75
Uair (finisher) KBG: 180 -> 190
Dair ending lag: 44 -> 37
Dair landing lag: 21 -> 19
Dair autocancel: 45-FAF -> 1-6, 42-FAF
 
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TheLobsterCopter5000

Smash Apprentice
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Dec 24, 2016
Messages
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Nair would too OP for him with the range on it...
Maybe fair? It has the combo breaker feel to it, and it comes out on frame 7, so maybe make it come out on frame 4 instead?
Yeah I guess, although i'm slightly concerned that with the other buffs I gave it that may be making it too good...but i guess I could tweak the other buffs a bit to compensate.
 

Informant

Smash Apprentice
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Jan 12, 2008
Messages
78
Location
California....just like every one else silly!
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I say make R.O.B. run faster, slightly heavier, and slightly less gravity. Give him back his Brawl moves such as the instant and long reaching laser, powerful fair, gyro strength, dsmash speed, grab range, UP TILT, sidestep, and forward tilt instead of this useless nerfed one! I loved that move so much it is actually my avatar, and I almost quit Smash 4 after seeing how nerfed it became. They purposely nerfed his UP B so they can make a "custom version" of his brawl UP but nobody allows customs in tournaments anyays :(
 
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1FC0

Smash Lord
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Aug 21, 2013
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They need to include the usage of Robot Blocks. Maybe make it his B> since his current B> makes no sense considering the cord would get in the way if it did. Maybe it should be a chargeable reflector or something that can be placed on the stage for some kind of stage control or to bounce lasers off of.

Also his Super Diffusion Beam is ****. It looks nice but it is a definite downgrade from Diffusion Beam. Super Diffusion Beam is much less fun to use then Diffusion Beam and it is also very bad ineffective against metal characters in Classic (they can walk around in the attack freely and can thus easily escape it). He should probably just get Diffusion Beam Back or have a Final Smash where he changes into something cool that can move and can beat metal opponents too.
 
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